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Answer» I have a Pane Digital Supper Nova 8 inch Tablet. I say to charg it for the first time for 5 Hours. So I pluged it into an Outlet and after it started to charge I had to unplug it and move it to another Outlet. Do you think this massed up the charge of the Battery? I hope it does not think this is the new charge or do they not work like that?R chargeable devices should be fulling changed before you use them. But even if you don't do that, they should work alright anyway. The newer batteries are easier to recharge. Even if you thin k is was your fault, you should take it back if you have any trouble. Thee is a tenancy for some vendors to sell defective materials that have hidden flaws. Especially in retail sales. As a consumer, you have the right to return an item that does not work as advertised. What I am saying is that undercharging a battery does not cause mediated failure. Even undercharges, it should work for 2 or 3 hoers for every hour spent charging. Here is an article whit general information about rechargeable batteries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechargeable_batteryYou do NOT indicate what type of battery you are asking about. While the "memory " effect of the discharge/charging aspects can effect the level of charge that a battery can accept it is more of a factor with Ni-Cad batteries than with Lithium Ion batteries (but it can still be a factor with those as well). Your interruption of the charging cycle will more than likely have a similar affect to having NOT charged the battery to it's full capacity before use (even if in fact you did NOT actually use it). Generally to overcome that issue a number of complete discharges followed each time by a FULL charge may return the battery to full (duration) charge-ability. If we are talking about a lithium -ion battery a word of caution if they are allowed to discharge below about 10% (will occur over time even if not used) then no mater how new they are they CANNOT be recharged. They are dead.truenorthtruenorth, please include some references. If you are a Senior Engineer for one of the battery companies. pleas say so. One can Google 'battery charge myths' for some perhaps helpful information from sources that claim to be authoritative. Here is the fists I got from Google. http://www.greenbatteries.com/batterymyths.html Quote from: truenorth on December 01, 2011, 12:16:24 PM "memory " effect That is only a problem with Ni-Cad batteries (the requirement to discharge/recharge) Lithium Ion Batteries do not exhibit this issue. I know because I keep expecting them to; my laptop is three years old and still charges to 100% and lasts two hours (Li-Ion), my MP3 player is a few months shy of four years old and it still charges to 100%, and doesn't seem to have a reduced life. Both the laptop and MP3 player are consistently discharged, unplugged, and charged at sporadic intervals with various remaining amounts of power. Lithium Ion is IMMUNE from the "Memory effect" (that article has a lot of 'citation needed'...) that plagues Nickel-Cadmium and Nickel-Metal Hydride Batteries. NO consumer appliance that runs on batteries (such as cellphones, laptops, etc) produced WITHIN the last 6 to 10 years uses anything but Lithium-Ion batteries. At least I certainly would hope not. Even ignoring the so-called memory effect, which could very well be attributed to other things like reverse charge in certain cells, NiMH and NiCad batteries have shorter overall lifespans and are in general a pain to deal with. Since we are talking batteries, I just had an unexpected occurrence with my cell phone. I live in the mountains in the middle of nowhere and have always had a problem with cell phone reception and I just figured it was because of where I lived. My cell phone is older than dirt. I just got a new battery and all of a sudden my reception is much better. Although I never measured the voltage on the old battery, it seemed to be fully charged, it just didn't last as long as it should. But apparently, even though the charging light indicated it was fully charged, it didn't have the voltage it should have had and caused poor reception. If you are having battery problems get out your volt meter and measure the battery voltage.Quote from: rthompson80819 on December 01, 2011, 04:20:10 PM Since we are talking batteries, I just had an unexpected ... If you are having battery problems get out your volt meter and measure the battery voltage. You need a meter that tests the battery pack under load. Or see if you can measure while the phone is working.Good point, and I have measured many 12v car type batteries with a load tester, but I haven't seen many load testers for lower voltages.I once measured a 12Volt car battery by mistakenly crossing the positive cable with a crescent wrench to the frame... I don't recommend this method at all.Not only (as you probably learned) is this a potentially shocking situation to find one's self in; it is in fact highly difficult to interpret the "findings"-- "I once measured a 12Volt car battery by mistakenly crossing the positive cable with a crescent wrench to the frame." The status of the battery is defendant on the observation of the colour of the stars that explode in one's cranium. Given the extremely brief opportunity to make the colour distinction (which varies with amount of battery available power) it has been determined that this is a highly inaccurate method of determining existing degree of battery charge (other than of course if the battery is actually dead ---in which case the method is very ACCURATE).truenorth In response to some of the comments made i am including some references that relate to the issues i have mentioned in my earlier post. These are NOT the sources used for the comments i made. They are only provided to demonstrate again some of the information i stated. http://www.explainthatstuff.com/batteries.html This is an excellent discourse on what is involved in recharging batteries. http://batterycare.net/en/guide.html My reference to the aspect of potential of an issue with the lithium ion type of battery is elaborated upon re the 10% situation (after which it is most probable it CANNOT again ever be recharged). This was stated as a result of personal experience and my discussions with the implement manufacturer (Hitatchi) and their lithium ion batteries. Though not to misstate i further investigated the PHENOMENON with other professionals in the battery business and it was alway confirmed as a fact. The fact being that at some low degree of remaining charge the lithium ion battery cannot ever again be recharged. The percentage most often stated was 10%. Given the O/P's reference to charging for the 1st time a new battery (and it being interrupted) hense my observation and comment re procedures for perhaps the need to do multiple recharging cycles= When charging the battery for the first time, the device may indicate that charging is complete after just 10 or 15 minutes. This is a normal with rechargeable batteries. New batteries are hard for the device to charge; they have never been fully charged and not “broken in”. Sometimes the device's charger will stop charging a new battery before it is fully charged. If this happens, REMOVE the battery from the device and then reinsert it. The charge cycle should begin again. This may happen several times during the first battery charge. Don't worry; it's perfectly normal."--on-line source. Quote from: patio on December 01, 2011, 04:57:51 PM I once measured a 12Volt car battery by mistakenly crossing the positive cable with a crescent wrench to the frame... I don't recommend this method at all. You can weld by shorting out a car battery, I don't recommend that method either buddy Quote from: truenorth on December 01, 2011, 06:45:13 PM The status of the battery is defendant on the observation of the colour of the stars that explode in one's cranium. Given the extremely brief opportunity to make the colour distinction (which varies with amount of battery available power) it has been determined that this is a highly inaccurate method of determining existing degree of battery charge (other than of course if the battery is actually dead ---in which case the method is very accurate).truenorth That's definitely funny.

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I have a Pane Digital Supper Nova 8 inch Tablet.

I say to charg it for the first time for 5 Hours.

So I pluged it into an Outlet and after it started to charge I had to unplug it and move it to another Outlet.

Do you think this massed up the charge of the Battery?

I hope it does not think this is the new charge or do they not work like that?R chargeable devices should be fulling changed before you use them. But even if you don't do that, they should work alright anyway. The newer batteries are easier to recharge.
Even if you thin k is was your fault, you should take it back if you have any trouble. Thee is a tenancy for some vendors to sell defective materials that have hidden flaws. Especially in retail sales. As a consumer, you have the right to return an item that does not work as advertised.

What I am saying is that undercharging a battery does not cause mediated failure. Even undercharges, it should work for 2 or 3 hoers for every hour spent charging.

Here is an article whit general information about rechargeable batteries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechargeable_batteryYou do NOT indicate what type of battery you are asking about. While the "memory " effect of the discharge/charging aspects can effect the level of charge that a battery can accept it is more of a factor with Ni-Cad batteries than with Lithium Ion batteries (but it can still be a factor with those as well). Your interruption of the charging cycle will more than likely have a similar affect to having NOT charged the battery to it's full capacity before use (even if in fact you did NOT actually use it). Generally to overcome that issue a number of complete discharges followed each time by a FULL charge may return the battery to full (duration) charge-ability. If we are talking about a lithium -ion battery a word of caution if they are allowed to discharge below about 10% (will occur over time even if not used) then no mater how new they are they CANNOT be recharged. They are dead.truenorthtruenorth, please include some references. If you are a Senior Engineer for one of the battery companies. pleas say so.

One can Google 'battery charge myths' for some perhaps helpful information from sources that claim to be authoritative.
Here is the fists I got from Google.
http://www.greenbatteries.com/batterymyths.html
Quote from: truenorth on December 01, 2011, 12:16:24 PM

"memory " effect

That is only a problem with Ni-Cad batteries (the requirement to discharge/recharge) Lithium Ion Batteries do not exhibit this issue. I know because I keep expecting them to; my laptop is three years old and still charges to 100% and lasts two hours (Li-Ion), my MP3 player is a few months shy of four years old and it still charges to 100%, and doesn't seem to have a reduced life.

Both the laptop and MP3 player are consistently discharged, unplugged, and charged at sporadic intervals with various remaining amounts of power.

Lithium Ion is IMMUNE from the "Memory effect" (that article has a lot of 'citation needed'...) that plagues Nickel-Cadmium and Nickel-Metal Hydride Batteries. NO consumer appliance that runs on batteries (such as cellphones, laptops, etc) produced WITHIN the last 6 to 10 years uses anything but Lithium-Ion batteries. At least I certainly would hope not. Even ignoring the so-called memory effect, which could very well be attributed to other things like reverse charge in certain cells, NiMH and NiCad batteries have shorter overall lifespans and are in general a pain to deal with.

Since we are talking batteries, I just had an unexpected occurrence with my cell phone. I live in the mountains in the middle of nowhere and have always had a problem with cell phone reception and I just figured it was because of where I lived. My cell phone is older than dirt. I just got a new battery and all of a sudden my reception is much better. Although I never measured the voltage on the old battery, it seemed to be fully charged, it just didn't last as long as it should. But apparently, even though the charging light indicated it was fully charged, it didn't have the voltage it should have had and caused poor reception.

If you are having battery problems get out your volt meter and measure the battery voltage.Quote from: rthompson80819 on December 01, 2011, 04:20:10 PM

Since we are talking batteries, I just had an unexpected ...

If you are having battery problems get out your volt meter and measure the battery voltage.

You need a meter that tests the battery pack under load. Or see if you can measure while the phone is working.Good point, and I have measured many 12v car type batteries with a load tester, but I haven't seen many load testers for lower voltages.I once measured a 12Volt car battery by mistakenly crossing the positive cable with a crescent wrench to the frame...
I don't recommend this method at all.Not only (as you probably learned) is this a potentially shocking situation to find one's self in; it is in fact highly difficult to interpret the "findings"-- "I once measured a 12Volt car battery by mistakenly crossing the positive cable with a crescent wrench to the frame." The status of the battery is defendant on the observation of the colour of the stars that explode in one's cranium. Given the extremely brief opportunity to make the colour distinction (which varies with amount of battery available power) it has been determined that this is a highly inaccurate method of determining existing degree of battery charge (other than of course if the battery is actually dead ---in which case the method is very ACCURATE).truenorth
In response to some of the comments made i am including some references that relate to the issues i have mentioned in my earlier post. These are NOT the sources used for the comments i made. They are only provided to demonstrate again some of the information i stated.
http://www.explainthatstuff.com/batteries.html
This is an excellent discourse on what is involved in recharging batteries.
http://batterycare.net/en/guide.html
My reference to the aspect of potential of an issue with the lithium ion type of battery is elaborated upon re the 10% situation (after which it is most probable it CANNOT again ever be recharged). This was stated as a result of personal experience and my discussions with the implement manufacturer (Hitatchi) and their lithium ion batteries. Though not to misstate i further investigated the PHENOMENON with other professionals in the battery business and it was alway confirmed as a fact. The fact being that at some low degree of remaining charge the lithium ion battery cannot ever again be recharged. The percentage most often stated was 10%.
Given the O/P's reference to charging for the 1st time a new battery (and it being interrupted) hense my observation and comment re procedures for perhaps the need to do multiple recharging cycles=
When charging the battery for the first time, the device may indicate that charging is complete after just 10 or 15 minutes. This is a normal with rechargeable batteries. New batteries are hard for the device to charge; they have never been fully charged and not “broken in”. Sometimes the device's charger will stop charging a new battery before it is fully charged. If this happens, REMOVE the battery from the device and then reinsert it. The charge cycle should begin again. This may happen several times during the first battery charge. Don't worry; it's perfectly normal."--on-line source.
Quote from: patio on December 01, 2011, 04:57:51 PM

I once measured a 12Volt car battery by mistakenly crossing the positive cable with a crescent wrench to the frame...
I don't recommend this method at all.

You can weld by shorting out a car battery, I don't recommend that method either buddy

Quote from: truenorth on December 01, 2011, 06:45:13 PM

The status of the battery is defendant on the observation of the colour of the stars that explode in one's cranium. Given the extremely brief opportunity to make the colour distinction (which varies with amount of battery available power) it has been determined that this is a highly inaccurate method of determining existing degree of battery charge (other than of course if the battery is actually dead ---in which case the method is very accurate).truenorth

That's definitely funny.

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