Try another media...even though you've already tried 2. Borrow an empty DVD of another brand.Patio,While i REFERRED to 2 DIFFERENT brands and types for this LATESTEFFORT in fact throughout this process i have used at least 5 different brands--including 2 different brands of DVD-RW's. My WASTEBASKET is getting full of coasters. Also like you i am getting "steamed' and may just take my own advice. thanks,truenorth