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Answer» My rig is running a GA-MA790Xt-UD4P motherboard with a AMD 965 Quad Core Black Edition and 2 X Mushkin DDR3 1333 . I mainly use it for chat, email, minor word processing and MSN Games. My question is will overclocking my memory give me a noticeable increase in performance? I KNOW I don't need to overclock my processor as I don't push it ANYWHERE NEAR it's limits. What is the FSB speed on the MBoard ? ?As far as I can tell it is 2600 MhzWow !Name Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (rev0 1.0) No, you would never notice the difference at all, except in the shorter lifespan of you memory modules. ahh! but then they could buy newer, faster sticks! It's genius! Quote from: Quantos on January 15, 2010, 08:35:22 PM No, you would never notice the difference at all, except in the shorter lifespan of you memory modules. Quote from: BC_Programmer on January 15, 2010, 09:59:58 PM ahh! but then they could buy newer, faster sticks! It's genius!Further justified by the intermitent errors reported by memory diagnostics. Go for it... Curious to see what errors or symptoms, if any, "overclocking" might generate...Personally, I've never overclocked.... I have had factory Overclocked graphics cards... in fact, I still have them and they work fine. But I have had to underclock components to determine what was happening (one such instance was within my first 100 or so posts on this forum, in fact, regarding my Nvidia Geforce 5500FX; underclocking solved the CRASHING issues at the time, but upon opening the case for an unrelated reason, I found that the fan was "mortally busted". Anyway, I had to plop off the fan from a PCI Geforce card I had and I was able to reset the card to it's "factory" (overclocked) settings with no ill effects. IMO, only CPUs and GPUs even have overclocking potential; this is due to the WAY the factory tests them; they don't test every processor individually- they take samples from each batch, and then based on the capabilities of those chips they assign the "default" speed of the processors. For example, a AMD K6-2 350Mhz processor has the exact same core die as a 500Mhz processor; the only difference is that the batch the 350Mhz was in was only able to stably run at 350Mhz. The reason this is used as a justification is because it's fully possible that not all processors in the batch are limited to the chosen speed. On the other hand, the batches are all extremely close; additionally, if the manufacturer could have charged more for the processor/gpu by selling it at a higher clock speed (and therefore higher price point) I imagine they would. many believe that the only worry is heat. This is actually quite far from the truth. there are a number of factors. Aside from the obvious heat issue, there is also the common practice of "upping the voltage" unfortunately people don't seem to clue in that "upping the voltage" also has a habit of causing electrical current within the chip to "arc" across the mere nanometers of space between traces on the chip. This almost always results in total and catastrophic processor failure and even motherboard failure as well. In fact, it is these voltage "spikes" that caused the entire batch to be rejected for use at the higher clock speed; the test subject processors from that batch were clock-tested; higher speed generally requires more voltage, and little, tiny inconsistencies, like 1 nm deviations of a single trace from the specification can cause shorts with the required voltages. these abberations in the processor die can occur for many reasons, such as heat deviations across the die as well as other reasons or other anomolies that spread across the die. My tried and true method for reliable overclocking is the following: Buy a CPU. use it at the speed it's rated. if you want a faster CPU, buy it. use a proper amount of paste and the stock cooler. (anybody ever notice that people are always saying that you need a better heatsink to overclock, a processor, and yet the exact same processor that you can buy at the desired overclocked speed comes with the same heatsink as the one your overclocking? the fact that your CPU gives out more heat then a equivalent, higher-clock speed CPU should be the first clue that there was a good reason it was rated for the lower speed). Buy memory at a supported speed for your motherboard. the motherboard will detect the PROPER speed of the memory and run it at this proper speed, and, barring quality issues you will not experience difficult to explain anomalies due to memory errors. Don't use the "BIOS overclocking" features. just because it's there doesn't mean it's safe to use, regardless of how many times the BIOS or it's documentations say "SAFE!" or "risk-free!". (and if you buy that crap you might want to see the INCREDIBLE OFFERS that are in your spam e-mail inbox, you gullible putz.) GPUs are a little bit different; generally if you have confidence in the distributor (like BFGtech or PNY) then it's alright to buy a overclocked card from them; unlike buying another card and overclocking it yourself, you are not voiding the warranty, and it generally has adequate cooling and other changes to try to make sure you don't need to warranty. That being said, if you can buy a newer card for a little more then an overclocked version of an older card the newer card is probably the best return on investment; even factory overclocked a overclocked card will have a shorter lifespan then a card that is running at the manufacturers specs; nature of the game, REALLY. Those few dollars could translate to years of life for the card later on down the road. This is of course irrelevant to so-called "graphics cards experts" who really have no idea how a shader WORKS or what a transformation pipeline does but somehow have even fooled themselves into thinking they know what they are talking about. They have no concept of economical or value; they believe whole-heartedly that paying for 2 more stream processors (again, they really have no idea what these do, but like to claim otherwise with big handwavy generalizations like "it helps the GPU work faster") for an extra 50$ is a worthwhile investment, with absolutely little regard for the fact that in a month that very same graphics card will have deprecated to less then 50% of the original price (again, this sort of thing is irrelevant to so-called "graphics called experts" who replace their GPU more often then they change their cats litter). Summary? a Fast computer is useless if it doesn't work, no matter how much you paid for it. Yep, if you want more, then buy more. Don't be a cheapskate.hmmmmm, guess oc'n the memory is outta the question then. I just like to tweak things. This rig is already wayyy overkill for what I use it for.. nice rig for 1,500 bucks, sure beats my last 3 Dells!!!And I'm not gittin' soaked on interest!!All the more reason not to overclock... Buy a cheapo P4 unit or so if you want to experiment with tweaking... |
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