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I was sent an email from one of my friends and I thought it was pretty interesting.
Here it is (modified for the forums):


HOW TO SPOT A SCAM?
Is it really free or is there a hidden agenda?

It might be a scam if...

It's just too good to be true. A free car just for taking a survey? A laptop computer for a single mouse click? No way.

You're a winner...but you have to pay a fee to claim your prize.

It's free with shipping and handling. If it's five or six bucks, fine. But make sure it's not $59.95

The website offers nothing but free stuff. It's probably an email collection site for spammers.

There's a lot of fine print and you have to agree to accept all the terms.

You have to make a purchase to get the freebie.

You must give a credit card number to get a free item.

There's a free "trial period". This may be true, but the company can make it difficult to cancel, and if you forget, wham! You're on the hook.

Quote from: Carbon Dudeoxide on August 14, 2008, 04:00:21 AM

There's a lot of fine print and you have to agree to accept all the terms.

Hey, that sounds like my website you are talking about...

Quote from: Zylstra on August 14, 2008, 04:57:36 AM
Quote from: Carbon Dudeoxide on August 14, 2008, 04:00:21 AM
There's a lot of fine print and you have to agree to accept all the terms.

Hey, that sounds like my website you are talking about...


Lol, just what it said in the email Thanks for sharing carbon.EULAlyzer can be HANDY when it comes to all of that fine print.

Everyone should also watch out for collection companies saying that you owe a certain bank a certain amount of money. Always do your research. If it weren't for me doing this for my grandma the other day, she would still think she owes over $10,000...

And be careful when ordering things over the phone. Some catalogs such as Collections Etc. will sometimes add you to expensive programs without your express consent.

Quote from: Carbon Dudeoxide on August 14, 2008, 04:00:21 AM
There's a free "trial period". This may be true, but the company can make it difficult to cancel, and if you forget, wham! You're on the hook.
Not sure how it happened, but I somehow got signed up for a company called AutoVantage. I received a letter from them over a week ago and immediately called to cancel. Instead, they extended my trial, thanked me for my business, and hung up. I'm still trying to get them to cancel it for me.


Out of curiosity, I decided to test out their service. I don't want it, but since it's a free trial, I might as well try it out. They're supposed to give discounts on car RENTALS and hotels, but in city I searched in, I couldn't get any results.Chris, you brought this up in my head:

If you are in the US (or dealing with a US business) call the BBB or send a letter. (Its more professional to send an actual letter, not email, or at the very least a fax)
File a formal compliant. They will help you get through everything.
www.bbb.org
Still waiting on Verizon.. they ought to get a nice formal complaint resolution letter soon if they dont take care of things.

Has anyone here actually read through an entire agreement?
Personally, I have only had a few that I have gone through:
Google (Advanced services, such as AdSense)
Microsoft Windows XP (I was really bored)
And the default SMF agreement, as well as my modified version.Quote
Has anyone here actually read through an entire agreement?
I have once. Now I know what they all say. http://www.hoax-slayer.com/Quote from: Zylstra on August 15, 2008, 08:04:37 AM
Chris, you brought this up in my head:

If you are in the US (or dealing with a US business) call the BBB or send a letter. (Its more professional to send an actual letter, not email, or at the very least a fax)
File a formal compliant. They will help you get through everything.
www.bbb.org

I've gone through the BBB a couple of times and so far and they have never done anything to help me out. I've never even received a response from them. I was really hoping they would've helped me out a couple of years ago when I had my laptop stolen by a McDonald's employee and I was being harassed and threatened with physical violence by the manager, but I was left to fend for myself. And the POLICE up here are a joke and actually started accusing me of selling my laptop and only pretending that it was stolen. I don't know where in the world they came up with that. Also, they apparently searched the manager's HOUSE without ever telling me. I only found out when he confronted me, wanting to kick my *censored*. Luckily, I'm a pretty big guy, so he backed out and left when I accepted the challenge.I feel for you Chris, people like that make me sick.

I encrypt my drive (NOT bypassable without loosing all data) and LOCK my computer at a security chip level (Not easy to bypass, most companies require that you provide owner identification) and at a hard drive firmware level (Bypassable by yourself, but still works well) for one major reason:
If my laptop gets stolen, I want it to be nothing more than a plastic rectangle to the thief. I dont really keep important data that would be threatening if it got stolen, though I do have private data that I wouldn't necessarily want others to read.

But thats just the doldrums, when no one will step up and help you, and when people do that. These days, it's a really good idea to take such precautions. Unfortunately, back then, I didn't have nearly as much computer knowledge as I do now. So, not only did some undeserving jerk end up with a $1500 machine, he also ended up with all of my personal data. I just hope he had the decency to format the drive or at least delete all of my stuff.Quote
Not sure how it happened, but I somehow got signed up for a company called AutoVantage. I received a letter from them over a week ago and immediately called to cancel. Instead, they extended my trial, thanked me for my business, and hung up. I'm still trying to get them to cancel it for me.

How are these fine people billing you?

I gently remind you that if it's by credit card, you can call the card company and tell them you're having a dispute (at least in theory).Quote from: Aegis on August 16, 2008, 12:31:09 AM
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Not sure how it happened, but I somehow got signed up for a company called AutoVantage. I received a letter from them over a week ago and immediately called to cancel. Instead, they extended my trial, thanked me for my business, and hung up. I'm still trying to get them to cancel it for me.

How are these fine people billing you?

I gently remind you that if it's by credit card, you can call the card company and tell them you're having a dispute (at least in theory).

Well, they're not billing me yet. I'm not home right now, but when I get there, I plan on making another attempt to cancel the service. I'll just have to become even more demanding this time, I suppose. My card is through Wells Fargo, and I've had to contact them before about activity like this. Unfortunately, they also usually put a hold on my card for a few days, so I'm waiting for a time when I'm not going to need to use it.


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