1.

Solve : how to find the balance between not trying, and being creepy.?

Answer»

In high school i wouldn't try to get girls, and so people blamed me that i didnt have a gf because i didnt take the initiative.

Now i do, when i see a girl i like on fb or on the other forum i go to, i send them a friend request and a PM that says "hey watsup"

99% of the time they ignore me.

I asked a few people and they said its creepy to just randomly talk to girls.

 All my life people have been telling me, "OH dude, just go and say hi, you have to take initiative."

Now they are saying its creepy to say hi?

Girls are something I will never understand, the rules keep changing on how to talk to a girl. Also why is it that a guy would respond to a girl he doesn't know on fb.

but not the other way around?RANDOM STORY TIME. this happened almost 10 years ago (9, really) so it might not be 100% accurate, but it was pretty epic. Though it doesn't have much to do with this topic. Than again this is a rather odd topic to find on this forum regardless so I thought I'd give it some content. No offense.

One time I was at a grocery store. Well, that's not true. I've actually been to them several times, but this was one specific instance. Anyway, what I was getting is neither important, nor do I remember it, though I do remember I also got a few peanuts. This was odd because I'm not usually a peanut person and also because it helped me in a "crowning moment of awesome" to quote tvtropes. Anyway, as luck would have it one of the registers was staffed by one of my friends I had been working up the nerve to ask out. In actual fact that was partially why I chose that store, though the main reason was it was the closest. Nonetheless, opportunity smiled upon me. As I waited in line the customers ahead of me turned out to know her. (Which isn't surprising, they turned out to be two of those pretentious and inexplicably popular girls that every high school seems to have, though not to the scale that TV and movies seem to suggest. Nonetheless,  They were your typical shallow B-words. Anyway In typical B-word fashion their exchanges with her consisted primarily of passive-aggressive comments. Some high-school CRAP which I don't remember and wasn't important, and was certainly inappropriate GIVEN the setting, but of course being the queen B-words of the school they felt they were above all things. I saw my chance when they said something to the accord of "how do you expect guys to notice you if you don't look beautiful" and with that last word she did one of those idiotic things where she shook her hair around. Pretentious git. (This made no sense because the girl in question was pretty bloody good looking if you ask me) I jumped into this, much to all three of their surprise since I was usually the quiet type. "Well, let's see, I've talked to both of you (addressing the "customers") and I've talked to her. With her I've had interesting conversations on a variety of subjects and issues, some of which she is clearly my intellectual better; with you two, on the other hand, I believe I would have had an equally intellectual conversation if I was to tape two cantaloupes to a piece of cardboard. Obviously, I cannot speak for all guys, but for myself I'd much rather associate with and be seen with somebody smart like her (at which point I pointed at the girl behind the counter) than either of you two, who on a good day might be able to combine your abilities to match this container of peanuts at checkers with some extensive tutelage".

CROWNING MOMENT OF AWESOME. When I think of school, that event is the first thing I think of. Naturally, all three of them were speechless. I remember hearing the one person who was behind me in line giggling. They were already done their transaction so they left, and she started to ring me through. "So what am I smarter than you at, exactly?". "That, you will need to find out on your own.".
e
After that event, which was one of those stories that just BEGS to be told, our circle of friends started referring to those other two girls as "the cantaloupes". It was awesome. Then she moved away and I haven't seen her since. The end. It's beautiful. I was considering having it made into a television series. With the appropriate plot changes to incorporate explosions. My idea was that it would occur in winter and somehow in the ten minutes I was in the store the entire thing would be covered and snowed in. I'm sure I can cover that with some stupid psychobabble. Maybe I could have a robot that I built that is an expert at human-cyborg relations to explain it. Anyway basically what happens is the weight on the ceiling is intense enough to cause a rafter from the high ceiling to break loose. I would swoop in and grab all three of them and take them to safety, without breaking a sweat, thanks to being ten feet tall and built like a tank. At this point a variant of the above scenario would occur, possibly ending with the drinking of maple syrup. As time wears on the individuals locked inside form alliances and separate into different tribes. dictated mostly by which areas they occupy. For example, there would be the produce tribe, the dairy tribe, and the delicatessen tribe. I make a nemesis, Tim, too. During the SECOND season, everything changes however as we discover that the grocery store is in fact a starship, however the bridge of the ship is in one of those "employees only" doors and as such is protected by a magical force field allowing only employees to enter. This is where my character's love interest (my past one, but no matter) comes in.(Oh yeah all the other people working there were turned into soup late in the first season by the raiders from the noodle isle.). She's the only one that can go through the force field, but the moment she steps through it, the U.S.S Quality goes on red alert, which alerts the manager to her presence; he's been locked in his office since the start of the series locked in his office, because he has a rare disorder that makes him want to tie people up and take them hostage for no reason. So of course she get's captured and I yell one of those NOOOO things. I was thinking the scene could be a Piano solo by Randy Newman, much like the series intro. Of course, because I'm 10 feet tall and built like a tank (much like my real life self, of course) I manage to use the power of love to break through the employees only force field, with a little help from a bazooka I find in the firearms isle (I guess it's an American grocery store), and an experimental laser I find in the spice isle, which is a clear case where somebody decided they didn't want something and just plopped it on the nearest shelf. This only makes me angrier, of course. So I manage to break through and get the Manager to surrender his prisoner. At this point there is a tearful scene:

BC Played by The Rock: I'm here to rescue you! haha, I've always wanted to say that. Seriously though you alright? The manager didn't try to force you to do anything cruel or unnatural, like watch I Love Lucy or anything, did he?
BC's old love interest whose name started with a K but I've embarrassingly forgotten:You've changed!
BC Played by the Rock: yeah, I was able to find a change of clothes. It was touch and go there for a while, glad you noticed.
K: No, I mean you're different now. Now you use violence to solve problems instead of before, where you just sort of let other people deal with it
BC Played by the Rock: yeah, it rules
*this part would be in the spoiler commercial*
K: I'm pregnant.
BC: Cool, I don't remember the fun part of that, though, which concerns me. Was it really that bad that I blocked it out of my memory?
K: It's Tim's
BC: Oh, that's a relief. I was worried for a MOMEN.... HEY WAIT A SECOND.


And cue ending credits of that episode. naturally played by Randy Newman.

I think it holds real promise myself. It's better than Lost, at least.

Anyway, as to your "issue". Don't think of it as "talking to girls", because all you are doing is talking to people. There aren't really any separate set of rules, aside from originally sticking to neutral topics.

Most importantly is to not use Facebook for this. It just comes off as weird, as you've seen. Forums, even more so. Quote from: STC on May 10, 2012, 08:08:03 AM

I asked a few people and they said its creepy to just randomly talk to girls.

They are right. Talking to girls in real life is one thing, random girls on the web is different. More stalkerish.
In most areas of our lives it's good to try to keep things simple, but in meeting a new person, simply saying "hi!" is one of the worst things you can do, unless the person is about to leave and that's all you have time to say in order to get the person's attention.

It's always better to include something more in your first hello, preferably something relevant to what's going on around you, rather than saying something personal about yourself or the other person.  Instead of "Hi!  My name is ___" or "You look [pretty]", it's better to comment on your surroundings, and you can often leave out the word "hi".

For example, with summer coming up in the northern hemisphere and casual outdoor concerts a common place for seeing a person you'd like to talk to, while waiting for the event to begin, it's better to say something like "Are you here to see Act A or Act B?" or "I'm familiar with Act B but not Act A."  Being less personal is less invasive.

I'm from New York City, and 3 part repartee with strangers happens all the time.  One person says something, the other person says something back, and the first person responds to that without the expectation that further conversation will ensue.  It gives both people the opportunity take a moment to decide if further interaction feels welcome, and relieves the tension of having an internal debate of "Should I say something?/Should I not?".  You've given it a shot, so there's no need to kick yourself after for having not tried.  Again, you comment on what's around you, and probably not the other person.

If you go somewhere and see someone you know only minimally, that's when the word "hi!" is useful, but still include something more because they might not recognize you out of your usual context. 

As for the internet, I think you have to include something relevant to what about the person caught your attention, but more than just "I think you're good looking". 

Why is just saying "hi" so creepy?  I don't know.  Maybe it's because anyone can say it, whereas including something more takes more intelligence or more social skills and people who are better able to communicate are regarded as more emotionally stable.
Your a guy so you know what most guys are like... right? Well girls know what most guys are like also.

So put it like this. If some guy on fb or where ever out of the blue started saying hi to you it would be what? Cool or creepy?
Hi there    Quote from: reddevilggg on October 04, 2012, 06:40:11 AM
Hi there

That will be the title of the Made for TV movie I described above.


See. Brilliant. Also that inset picture only like it was taken from "The Scorpion King". It totally wasn't. That's just from the scene where we have to go into my pet robot's AI to find the water chip for the vault before the Stargate explodes.


Discussion

No Comment Found