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Answer» Just was curious why my suggestion for free music was REMOVED from the Software section...? I always see comments & tips on crappy Limewire or Bit Torrent sites, which certainly do not pay royalties to the recording artist...and please tell me that all those people out there with 20 to 40 gig mp3 players are paying ITunes .99 a song for 5,000 to 10,000 songs?? Sorry if I SOUND a bit irate...I am a little confused.What is your suggestion??, if you are canadian you basically own the rights to the recordings if you purchase them legally.. so any canadian can REPRODUCE them/share/let them leech ect, legally.My suggestion was for a Newsgroup site that you pay about $10.00 a month for 20 gigs of downloads. The link I posted was removed...didn't really understand why? After using this I can't understand why anyone would waste their time with Bit Torrent sites & junk like Limewire. The link was removed because it goes against our forum's policy. Although you pay for the service, much of its material is still considered illegal in the United States, where this forum is based. None of that money goes towards royalties. If you see other similar sites being suggested/posted, feel free to report them and they will be dealt with however we see fit. You were not being singled out; such content is often removed when we feel it is necessary. Keep in mind that a lot of it has to do with context, as some of these sites are technically considered legal (meaning: we sometimes allow exceptions if we feel it is appropriate). However, the site in question was being posted for the sole purpose of downloading copyrighted material, which is why it was removed. But the biggest strike against the site is that they are profitting from this copyrighted material, which is illegal.Thank you for clearing that up for me CB Matt. I just kind of assumed it is the same a file sharing or torrent site. I figured someone, somewhere had bought the material, then took the time to upload it to the (un-named) server. Then for the small fee it is available for people to download. Sorry about the post, although I still use the site myself.Quote I just kind of assumed it is the same a file sharing or torrent site They are just as bad. Quote I figured someone, somewhere had bought the material, then took the time to upload it to the (un-named) server. Then for the small fee it is available for people to download That is probably what happened. Someone somewhere purchased it, cracked it, then hosted it for everyone to see. Even though he paid for it, he is selling copies to other people. Who gets the money? That is called piracy. <-- People buying software and selling copies to earn profit. This is very illegal. In Fact, Piracy is one of the main reasons why many game COMPANIES have gone bankrupt in the past. They spend millions of dollars making the game and sell it to get a profit. They cannot gain any profit if everyone is giving each other free copies of the game, which is why the company runs out of money. This is the same deal with software manufacturers. They spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to make a product and sell it on the marked (which is why programs like Adobe Photoshop and Corel Draw cost so much). Once people start downloading them for free, they cannot get any profit, thus meaning they cannot improve the software.Quote from: Szpixman on August 14, 2008, 10:23:17 AM I just kind of assumed it is the same a file sharing or torrent site. Well, it basically is the same. However, P2P clients and torrent sites can be used legally. For instance, some people download Linux this way. That's why they are sort of a gray area. Newsgroups can be legal as well. But the one you are a member of is used explicitly for downloading copyrighted material. I hope this all makes sense.Quote However, P2P clients and torrent sites can be used legally. For instance, some people download Linux this way. Another example is iso file of Vista Recovery Disc: http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/ Since NeoSmart company didn't want to clog their serves, with such a huge file, they made it available through torrent download only.Thanks guys...makes more sense now. Other than the occasional hard to find album or the odd picture, I never download software or movies from them. I'm almost 50 years old & can't seem to find the stuff I prefer (music wise) anywhere else. Even online CD stores get stumped by some the stuff I'm looking for. Thanks again.I know how you feel. My tastes are a lot newer, but most of what I like is quite obscure, so I have a fair amount of trouble sometimes because some of the bands I like aren't even signed.How obscure? Perhaps I like some of the same stuff. I'm really into stuff like The Mountain Goats and Jeffrey Lewis. Anti-folk is easily my favorite genre of music. To keep myself from rambling on about this forever, I will save a lot of time and simply send you a copy of a PM I sent someone a few days ago.

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Just was curious why my suggestion for free music was REMOVED from the Software section...?
I always see comments & tips on crappy Limewire or Bit Torrent sites, which certainly do not pay
royalties to the recording artist...and please tell me that all those people out there with 20 to 40 gig
mp3 players are paying ITunes .99 a song for 5,000 to 10,000 songs??
Sorry if I SOUND a bit irate...I am a little confused.What is your suggestion??, if you are canadian you basically own the rights to the recordings if you purchase them legally.. so any canadian can REPRODUCE them/share/let them leech ect, legally.My suggestion was for a Newsgroup site that you pay about $10.00 a month for 20 gigs of downloads.
The link I posted was removed...didn't really understand why? After using this I can't understand why
anyone would waste their time with Bit Torrent sites & junk like Limewire.
The link was removed because it goes against our forum's policy. Although you pay for the service, much of its material is still considered illegal in the United States, where this forum is based. None of that money goes towards royalties.

If you see other similar sites being suggested/posted, feel free to report them and they will be dealt with however we see fit. You were not being singled out; such content is often removed when we feel it is necessary. Keep in mind that a lot of it has to do with context, as some of these sites are technically considered legal (meaning: we sometimes allow exceptions if we feel it is appropriate). However, the site in question was being posted for the sole purpose of downloading copyrighted material, which is why it was removed. But the biggest strike against the site is that they are profitting from this copyrighted material, which is illegal.Thank you for clearing that up for me CB Matt. I just kind of assumed it is the same a file sharing or torrent
site. I figured someone, somewhere had bought the material, then took the time to upload it to the (un-named) server. Then for the small fee it is available for people to download. Sorry about the post, although
I still use the site myself.Quote

I just kind of assumed it is the same a file sharing or torrent
site

They are just as bad.

Quote

I figured someone, somewhere had bought the material, then took the time to upload it to the (un-named) server. Then for the small fee it is available for people to download

That is probably what happened. Someone somewhere purchased it, cracked it, then hosted it for everyone to see.
Even though he paid for it, he is selling copies to other people. Who gets the money?
That is called piracy. <-- People buying software and selling copies to earn profit. This is very illegal.

In Fact, Piracy is one of the main reasons why many game COMPANIES have gone bankrupt in the past. They spend millions of dollars making the game and sell it to get a profit. They cannot gain any profit if everyone is giving each other free copies of the game, which is why the company runs out of money.

This is the same deal with software manufacturers. They spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to make a product and sell it on the marked (which is why programs like Adobe Photoshop and Corel Draw cost so much). Once people start downloading them for free, they cannot get any profit, thus meaning they cannot improve the software.Quote from: Szpixman on August 14, 2008, 10:23:17 AM

I just kind of assumed it is the same a file sharing or torrent site.

Well, it basically is the same. However, P2P clients and torrent sites can be used legally. For instance, some people download Linux this way. That's why they are sort of a gray area. Newsgroups can be legal as well. But the one you are a member of is used explicitly for downloading copyrighted material. I hope this all makes sense.Quote

However, P2P clients and torrent sites can be used legally. For instance, some people download Linux this way.

Another example is iso file of Vista Recovery Disc: http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/
Since NeoSmart company didn't want to clog their serves, with such a huge file, they made it available through torrent download only.Thanks guys...makes more sense now. Other than the occasional hard to find album or the odd picture, I never download software or movies from them. I'm almost 50 years old & can't seem to find the stuff I
prefer (music wise) anywhere else. Even online CD stores get stumped by some the stuff I'm looking for.
Thanks again.I know how you feel. My tastes are a lot newer, but most of what I like is quite obscure, so I have a fair amount of trouble sometimes because some of the bands I like aren't even signed.How obscure? Perhaps I like some of the same stuff. I'm really into stuff like The Mountain Goats and Jeffrey Lewis. Anti-folk is easily my favorite genre of music. To keep myself from rambling on about this forever, I will save a lot of time and simply send you a copy of a PM I sent someone a few days ago.

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